Alright, you are a Food For Life promoting fool who does not believe in Jayadvaita Maharaj's refutations of the FFL and the MidDay meal projects. So please remain a FFL promoting rascal why do you have to now mix mundane food distribution with feminism. Insult to injury...
Who we can partially blame is the misleader* Rupa Raghunatha Das (Sivaram Swami dis.) This whole FFL Vrindavan and it's girl child education is his doing.
Should girls be married at a young age in the21st century?
1. Only after through molding and education. Molding means that with care and sensitivity a girl is trained as a girl. It is never a rough training with austerities that a boy is trained with. nityaṁ paryacarat prītyā always serve husband with prityā i.e. love. SB 3.23.1 is the purpose of a girl's training.
2. The boys must be taught how to sensitive to the needs the wife. This will ensure non-prostitution in iskcon. 'non-prostitution' = non divorce
3. The boy and girl should stay initially at their parents homes where the parents could give them practical advice as to how grihastashrama is to be handled.
4. The parents or the temple president should choose a boy for the girl using the science of astrology in what ever reasonably degraded or not so degraded form it is out there.
5. This all is possible if the temple president is not a fool.
6. A marriage board is to be formed in the temple.
7. The temple president and the marriage board members should hear many lectures on the nature of women and men, and hear lectures on grihasta ashrama by Bhakti Vidya Purna Maharaja.
8. Bhakti Vidya Purna Maharaja's lectures are the key to help solve iskcon's marriage problems.
Evidences from their website:
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Muni, Seema, Sita, and many more like them of 8 to 13 years of age all married, when asked if they are happy being married they replied: “our parents are.” Early marriage robs a girl of the opportunity for full physical, emotional and psychological development. http://fflvrindavan.org/en/?p=751Next day, we celebrated another birthday – A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, was born on the day after Janmasthami, in Calcutta, in 1896. He died in Vrindavan in 1977, aged 81. H.H. Radha-Govinda Swami maharaj visited the school and spoke to the children about Prabhupada’s life and achievements. Prabhupada started Food for Life, a food distribution program, in 1972, and it remains an important activity for the International Society for Krishna Consciousness today. Sandipani Muni School developed from the Food for Life program that was started in Vrindavan in 1990.
Phoola from Sundrakh Village, about 3 km from Vrindavan, was taken out of school in 2004. She was 13. When we heard that she was getting married we informed the police and they stopped the marriage. Two months later I saw her in her village and I asked her if she was married, shyly, with her head down she said “Yes”.
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To be yavana means to deliberately and conscientiously destroy vedic culture and this is what the Sandipani Muni Girls School is guilty of doing.
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We hold parents’ meetings to impress upon them the importance of educating their daughters. When we admit children, we have the parents to sign a paper that states they will not marry their daughter until she is 18. But the deep-rooted attachment to child marriage is very hard for these poor parents to break! It has been their custom for many generations and transformation will take time.
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This is called prostitute making. So if you are inclined to make your own daughter in to a "society girl". Society girl is a polite phrase meaning- prostitute. Then do it. Don't preach prostitution to the innocent traditional Indian families.
Subhaga Maharaja Pastime:
One morning after a night of festivals, seva, etc all devotees in the temple woke up late and so did Subhaga Maharaja an indian bodied devotee. Prabhupada observed this and corrected him by saying that he is to learn the philosophy from Prabhupada’s western disciples but he is to follow the culture that his parents taught him.
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http://fflvrindavan.org/en/?page_id=786 Our motive is to make these girls feel confident and powerful to face the world after they finish their education.
When she learns to walk and talk she is considered mature enough to be able to look after her younger brother. She helps her mother in the kitchen washing dishes all day and running errands. When she attains puberty, she becomes a burden to her parents who try tomarry her off.
She bears children even before she is mentally or physically mature enough.
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Yes, so let them read this explanation by SP about the proper ages for a girl to get pregnant and produce children. They don't know this knowledge coming from SP they have more faith in the western educated doctors who tell us when a girl a fit for pregnancy using their mundane tests. I say they don't use mundane tests they are under orders from political forces to broadcast that the girls should married at a later age when they have become seasoned prostitutes.
Here is a quote from Prabhupada:
Practically, I'll say, in our childhood age, my sisters were married between nine to twelve years. My eldest sister was married when she was nine years old, before my birth. She is the eldest. And my second sister was married at the age of twelve, twelve years. And my third sister was married at the age of (indistinct) years. So by the (indistinct) years, the marriage must be finished. That was the duty of the father. I remember, because my second sister was going twelve years, my mother said to my father that "I shall go to the river and commit suicide. The daughter is not married." (laughter) You see. The father was very sorry, "Yes, I am trying. What can I do?" (laughter) And then next generation, when my... I was also married man, you know. I was married when my wife was only eleven years old. And at the age of fourteen years she gave birth to first child. And next generation, when my eldest daughter was married at the age of sixteen years--it is little increased--but I was also very much upset that the daughter is sixteen years old.
[Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture, 1.8.51, Los Angeles, May 13, 1973]
So she came to live at the age of thirteen years,
and at fourteen years she gave birth to a child.
Tamala Krsna: So in such cases they would live separately, though, until they grew older.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. Until the girl is twelve, fourteen. She must be pub..., be puberty period. Then...
Tamala Krsna: But still, they know who they are married to.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Tamala Krsna: So they don't have any anxiety.
Prabhupada: Yes. (break) ...age was at that time eleven years. So she came to live at the age of thirteen years, and at fourteen years she gave birth to a child.
Hrdayananda: How old were you, Prabhupada, when you...
Prabhupada: Eh?
Hrdayananda: How old were you when you got married?
Prabhupada: I was student, so we were living separately. When she was thirteen years old, after puberty, then she was at... But there are many mothers still--the difference between the child, first child, and mother, twelve years. There are many mothers. At twelve years they gave birth to a child, especially in Bengal.
Tamala Krsna: In America that is considered very horrible.
Hrdayananda: Why?
Tamala Krsna: Catastrophe.
Prabhupada: All my sisters were married within twelve years. My second sister, she became twelve years, and I heard my mother become so disturbed: "Oh, this girl is not being married. I shall commit suicide." (laughter)
Tamala Krsna: At twelve!
Prabhupada: Twelve years. And she was given to a boy, my brother-in-law, for the second marriage. Means that my brother-in-law lost his first wife, and still, he was twenty-one years old. My sister was twelve years old and brother-in-law was twenty-one. In the sastra... I do not know exactly what is that sastra, but they say that if the girl before marriage has menstruation, then the father has to eat that menstrual liquid. Means it is, mean, very strict. And if the father is not living, then the elder brother has to eat. (break) ...ty of getting the girl married rests on the father. In the absence of the father, the eldest brother. The girl must be married. That is it. It is called daya, kanya-daya.
[S.P. Morning Walk, February 9, 1976, Mayapura]
I was married, my wife was eleven years. I was 22 years.
She did not know what is sex, eleven years' girl.
Syamasundara: Children should be allowed to have sex life at fourteen years old.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is psychological. They develop... Sex life, sex urge is there as soon as twelve years, thirteen years old, especially women. So therefore early marriage was sanctioned in India. Early marriage. Boy fifteen years, sixteen years, and girl twelve years. Not twelve years, ten years. I was married, my wife was eleven years. I was 22 years. She did not know what is sex, eleven years' girl. Because Indian girls, they have no such opportunity of mixing with others. But after the first menstruation, the husband is ready. This is the system, Indian system.
Syamasundara: So they are not spoiled.
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duḥkha nā mānaha yadi, kari nivedana cc/adi/7/102
The worst thing is that this Swami cannot see that apasiddhanta that is in play in this project.
Here is H.H. Radha-Govinda Swami talking to students
Rupa Raghunatha Dasa, disciple of Sivarama Swami http://fflv.blogspot.in/ cannot distinguish matter from spirit that is one thing. What more are to expect from 21st century members of iskcon? But from Radha Govinda Swami, an Indian born person, we expected more from him. It is odd that an Indian devotee who understands the importance of early marriage and keeping the girls at home should even grace such a place with his presence. Radha Govinda Swami is supposed to be pro-varna ashrama and yet he is seen here speaking to a karm girls' school in vrindavana. Now, I doubt if Radha Govinda Swami ever spoke against this system in his lecture there.
Here is the person's page
http://www.iskcondesiretree.com/profile/ruparaghunathdas
Here Rupa Raghunatha Dasa fails to understand who is a brajavasi and calls the people born in the geographic location of braj as brajvasis.
Please describe yourself so that other like minded devotees can find you.I just like to serve the brajabasi and the devotees.
Here Rupa Raghunatha Dasa is preaching about his FFL nonsense on iskcon desire tree.
What are your expectations from this community?just give us a chance to let devotees know that FFLV offer opportunity for service while in Vrindavan.
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